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  • Hello Sly, sorry to bug you, but you may have noticed that the Gryphus Squadron page has been edited repeatedly by different users, including myself. People are still adding the "207th Tactical Fighter Squadron" to the page, which is fan material. Now as far as I know, there is no source as to where it states which TFS they are.

    I hope you look into this issue and find a solution. Thanks

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    • I've been following the situation indeed, and I was even looking yesterday to see if I could find a possible source for the 207 designation. I was really busy yesterday (went on a small trip) and slept really well last night for once, so I'm only logging on and catching up with everything right now :P

      I've just protected the Gryphus Squadron page and I'll make a forum topic about it. We'll go from there and see if anyone has any valid sources. I'll keep digging through ACX's websites to find anything that might verify it.

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    • I've been hunting for a source as well. 99% of the results say their TFS number (even TV Tropes says it) but no official source to be found.

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    • AC6 F-22A -GRYPHUS EMBLEM- description. That's the source.

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    • We can't verify that description is accurate, because the DLC is no longer available for download. I've just asked the acecombat subreddit for assistance, hopefully someone still has it and can take pictures of the description.

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    • PositronCannon gave screenshot evidence here: https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/3d46g6/help_requested_description_for_f22a_gryphus_emblem/ct1qwpy

      The description we have on Acepedia is wrong. Therefore, we still have no source for "207th Tactical Fighter Squadron".

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    • So it is known the number, 207, but not the complete name? 

      Weird... and even more weird is that if you google "207th Tactical Fighter Squadron" you end up reading the very same description all over the internet.

      I also tried looking here: http://acecombat.jp/ace-x/ but I can't read Japanese so I couldn't go that far... >__<

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    • Even if it was in Japanese, we can still read the numbers. So if there is no "207", then anyone who adds this is adding fan material from now on.

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    • Shayanomer wrote:
      Even if it was in Japanese, we can still read the numbers. So if there is no "207", then anyone who adds this is adding fan material from now on.

      No "207", but I have absolute no clue how "Tactical Fighter Squadron" is written. :P

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    • I think I know where it came from. Please forget real life condition, since this is alternate universe only. Several times in Ace Combat series, the number on the aircraft were not the serial number, but the squadron's number, or whatever group they belong to. Mobius Squadron 118 TFW has NP 118 on his aicraft. Garuda Team 28 FS have GM 028 on both aircraft (actually everyone have the same number). Strigon Team 9 TFS have AI 009 on all aircraft including the Nosferatu. All Task Force 108 aircraft except Nomad Squadron have 108 on the aircraft.


      The only ones to not carry the squadron numbers are Wardog Squadron, Galm Team, Antares, and Scarface. Explainable. Wardogs are Osean, so most likely their aircraft numbering follow the real life USAF numbering. Galm, Antares, and Scarface are all mercenaries, so they are not bound to any rule about the numbering.

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    • There's actually a second part to that, the abbreviation at the start. Mobius 1 has "NP 118", which is North Point 118th. Garuda Team has GM 028, which is Gracemeria 28th. I'm not sure about Strigon's, though...

      So what's Gryphus's? Do we have a clear picture of it somewhere? I'm still not too certain about using it as concrete proof, but... not to mention it doesn't tell us "Tactical Fighter Squadron". It might be useful for a trivia note or something.

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    • Ai 009 is Aigaion 9th, can be seen on a cutscene when Melissa and Ludmila arrive in the fortified Gracemeria and the Strigons leave to retrieve the Nosferatu. The Gryphus aircraft seen in a cutscene in Ace Combat X has AB 247, but it isn't Gryphus 1's. There's a shot of it in Gryphus Squadron article here.

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    • Ahhhh, I see the issue now.

      Rick was Gryphus 2, and his aircraft says "AB 247" (Aubrey Base, obviously). But the AC6 DLC paint scheme and Infinity Special Aircraft show "AB 207". That must be where the number comes from that everyone keeps using.

      Unfortunately, now we have a problem: two different numbers. Not only do I not know which one to go with, this gives a contradictory situation where we don't have enough information to take a side.

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    • Gryphus 1's F-22 in the cutscene didn't have those markings though.

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    • I'd say go with "AB 247" since that's coming from the debut game. "AB 207" is likely a mistake from PA.

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    • SlyCooperFan1 wrote:

      I'm not sure about Strigon's, though...

      Su-33 ST have "A1" on their vertical stabilizers. Perhaps it's a reference to the Aigaion as their home base?

      Sorry for the off-topic reply. m(_ _)m

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    • Prinniev wrote:

      SlyCooperFan1 wrote:

      I'm not sure about Strigon's, though...

      Su-33 ST have "A1" on their vertical stabilizers. Perhaps it's a reference to the Aigaion as their home base?

      Sorry for the off-topic reply. m(_ _)m

      Sorry for discussing stuff about Strigon Team here, but Lorenz Riedel's Flanker-D's tail code is HH 707. He should technically also be based on the Aigaion, right? 

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    • Have we still not decided which number to go with?

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    • You might want to see this:

      Gleipnir&#039;s Defeat
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    • Gryphus emblem DLC of F-22 got AB 207, Rick F-1 use AB 247, Both use AB, maybe is from "Aubrey Base" ? Also. Screenshot from shay show that Gryphus 1's apalis got AF-001 Marking. I still don't know what AF is stand from.also 001

      lol wut namco.....

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    • ...well, that makes no sense. "AF" doesn't match anything. And a tailcode of 001? Sheesh, there's no consistency here at all.

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    • Namco being drunk... Again....

      Atleast AB make sense for me.

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    • AF = Air Force?

      Notice that End of Deception I's ending doesn't show any number on the Gryphus aircraft when shown up close.

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    • Did anyone notice ?

      In official artwork. Rick use F-1, But in Skies of Deception(Mission). Entire Squadron use F-4. Seem strange.

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      • Rick's F-1 uses "AB 247"
      • F-22A -Gryphus- uses "AB 207"
      • G1's Apalis uses "AF-001"

      Note that these are 3 different aircraft, each with different numbers. What does this mean?

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    • AF-001 would mean Airframe number one, since most of the fictional fighters are just prototypes.

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    • That would make sense. If Falco 1 never used it before Gryphus 1.....

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    • Mad Ptyik wrote:
      That would make sense. If Falco 1 never used it before Gryphus 1.....

      It would also mean an unknown Aurelian airbase, probably to deceive the Lesathians from getting more advanced parts which is probably sourced from Cape Aubrey.

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    • Shining light on this topic, I think it's best we stick to AB 247.

      Reasons:

      • It's from the game of origin
      • PA don't pay attention to detail when it comes to Access Games' content, which is why they made AB 207 up.
      • AF-001 makes sense for a prototype aircraft
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    • This is too inconclusive to make any proper judgment on. Project Aces does pay attention to detail when it comes to Access Games's content, they're always involved in the handheld releases.

      I've added trivia to Gryphus Squadron's article. This is as good as we can get for now.

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