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  • I think I'm going to stop playing Infinity. I played six matches today, most of them in 1500cst limited rooms and all of them in NTDM. Despite having as high a Cst as possible on the aircraft I was using (nearly 1500cst on both the level one CFA-44 -SL- and level 7 MiG-31B -Gaviria- I was using), there was always one or two players who completely dominated everyone else. One guy in an F-14B -PC- earned 134,000 points using his 1500cst-limited aircraft, because he clearly had that plane's base Cst at nearly 1500 and had his special weapons upgraded to max.

    I also saw a B-2A pilot with the MAGM, which means he spent AT LEAST 31 million or more credits to get that plane to Level 7. He made 30k more points than anyone else in the match, despite the fact that the rest of his team made less than 10k and lost. Every single match is decided by one player who gets an exorbitant amount of points.

    Not only that, but it's not INTERESTING anymore. They aren't adding any new content that isn't for players who get ridiculously high scores in tournaments (which you can only get by paying for tons of stocked fuel). They aren't doing anymore collaboration events. Hell, they don't even have the Supplied Fuel refill missions for NTDM! This is getting ridiculous. I hope Ace Combat 7 isn't like this, because if it is, I've lost faith in the franchise. They got greedy and it's permanently ruined my opinion on the series.

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    • Here's the thing: both the F-14B -Persian Cat- and the B-2A were also under 1500Cst, no matter what. This doesn't sound like a couple of OP players destroying the fleet, this sounds like you had horrible air support on your teams when you were playing. The B-2A, specifically, should have required someone staying near the enemy fleet to wait for the B-2 to respawn to kill him quickly.

      As for the lack of interesting content, yeah... that one I will concede. Maybe Project Aces were asking for a lighter period during this update so they could focus on 7, but it's definitely been lacking. The new prizes for tournaments is probably not changing, but they did say that there would be a Sword Art Online Collaboration Event at some point, and we have reason to believe that the next game update will be in July.

      As for the Supplied Fuel refill challenge... that was always exclusive to Score TDM except for maybe the first NTDM.

      I don't think they're greedy, I think it's just because fewer players are playing than on day one. But if Infinity is going to permanently ruin your opinion on the series, I think you're taking a free-to-play game a little too seriously.

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    • And there's something else: sorry, but I believe that your planes are a little bit weak despite the fact that both are very close to 1500Cst. Try using something already stronger but with fewer and weaker parts. I used to use a lv.6 F-14A -CH- filled with many good parts, and I was still falling behind many other 1500Cst planes. So I tried it at lv.10 with very few parts (homing was the only good part), and I could see a clear improvement. If you really want to win in a 1500Cst room, I'm afraid your lv.1 CFA-44 -SL- is obsolete even if it does reach the 1500Cst. About other players, this is a F2P game, so it's obvious there are many people who will just dominate the game for having many maxed out planes. And yet, there are people who dominate in a 1500Cst room. In this case, maybe they're really just that good, or your team didn't really help by stopping them. And I'm still playing ACI because I think it's still fun to play (yes, I do believe), and the good thing about the current SPM system is that now I can save up medals to buy some planes I really want.

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    • ^ In my case, I completely crush every NTDM match I go into using my F-2A -Nagase-, at Lv.10 with a few M parts to support the LASMs. BlkThunder is right, aircraft at Lv.1 can't do anything at all - try moving their levels to 10 but changing out the parts to keep it under 1500.

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    • I also have one story to show to you guys.

      Last monday, in a NTDM match, we were bombarded with everything the opposing team has, from cannon fire from ships to cruise missile, yet we didn't sank. I was flying my F-14A -AC- as a fleet defender but I got the wrong weapon. After the relentless assault, we managed to send a cruise missile strike at the last moment and we won despite some issues and odds.

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    • Coming from someone who never owned a PS3 and thus never played Infinity, I would like to say that if the game had less of a grind, the Free to Play/Pay to Play model was abolished for the PS4 I would buy it in a heart beat at box retail price (60-80$ CAD). The defing factor being the Free/Pay to play model turns me off and I have come very close, many times to almost buying a PS3 just to try it. By now i'm pretty certain that it won't ever rerelease on PS4 but from the looks of it, although if it did as long as that criteria was met I would be pleased as it seems to still have a lot of support.

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    • I too have seen a F-14B -PC- scoring more than 100,000 points in less than 2 minutes, the time it took him to win the match. I can't remember what was my squad, but situations like these should never happen.

      Not to mention those players who kick you out of their room because you have a 1800+ MR, when they are MR 1700 but they also fly a TtlCst > 2500 aircraft...

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    • SuperJaws100 wrote:
      I think I'm going to stop playing Infinity. I played six matches today, most of them in 1500cst limited rooms and all of them in NTDM. Despite having as high a Cst as possible on the aircraft I was using (nearly 1500cst on both the level one CFA-44 -SL- and level 7 MiG-31B -Gaviria- I was using), there was always one or two players who completely dominated everyone else. One guy in an F-14B -PC- earned 134,000 points using his 1500cst-limited aircraft, because he clearly had that plane's base Cst at nearly 1500 and had his special weapons upgraded to max.

      I also saw a B-2A pilot with the MAGM, which means he spent AT LEAST 31 million or more credits to get that plane to Level 7. He made 30k more points than anyone else in the match, despite the fact that the rest of his team made less than 10k and lost. Every single match is decided by one player who gets an exorbitant amount of points.

      Not only that, but it's not INTERESTING anymore. They aren't adding any new content that isn't for players who get ridiculously high scores in tournaments (which you can only get by paying for tons of stocked fuel). They aren't doing anymore collaboration events. Hell, they don't even have the Supplied Fuel refill missions for NTDM! This is getting ridiculous. I hope Ace Combat 7 isn't like this, because if it is, I've lost faith in the franchise. They got greedy and it's permanently ruined my opinion on the series.

      About that greedy part, I strongly disagree.

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    • SlyCooperFan1 wrote:
      Here's the thing: both the F-14B -Persian Cat- and the B-2A were also under 1500Cst, no matter what. This doesn't sound like a couple of OP players destroying the fleet, this sounds like you had horrible air support on your teams when you were playing. The B-2A, specifically, should have required someone staying near the enemy fleet to wait for the B-2 to respawn to kill him quickly.

      As for the lack of interesting content, yeah... that one I will concede. Maybe Project Aces were asking for a lighter period during this update so they could focus on 7, but it's definitely been lacking. The new prizes for tournaments is probably not changing, but they did say that there would be a Sword Art Online Collaboration Event at some point, and we have reason to believe that the next game update will be in July.

      As for the Supplied Fuel refill challenge... that was always exclusive to Score TDM except for maybe the first NTDM.

      I don't think they're greedy, I think it's just because fewer players are playing than on day one. But if Infinity is going to permanently ruin your opinion on the series, I think you're taking a free-to-play game a little too seriously.

      I apologize for not explaining clearly: the B-2A was in an unrestricted room, and I was the one spawn camping him. Unfortunately he had very long range weapons, he could fire his missiles as soon as he spawned (either that or he was just shooting them off for the hell of it).

      (To respond to some other posts I'm going to have to do some double posting, I can't multiquote with Wikia's format).

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    • BlkThunder001 wrote:
      And there's something else: sorry, but I believe that your planes are a little bit weak despite the fact that both are very close to 1500Cst. Try using something already stronger but with fewer and weaker parts. I used to use a lv.6 F-14A -CH- filled with many good parts, and I was still falling behind many other 1500Cst planes. So I tried it at lv.10 with very few parts (homing was the only good part), and I could see a clear improvement. If you really want to win in a 1500Cst room, I'm afraid your lv.1 CFA-44 -SL- is obsolete even if it does reach the 1500Cst. About other players, this is a F2P game, so it's obvious there are many people who will just dominate the game for having many maxed out planes. And yet, there are people who dominate in a 1500Cst room. In this case, maybe they're really just that good, or your team didn't really help by stopping them. And I'm still playing ACI because I think it's still fun to play (yes, I do believe), and the good thing about the current SPM system is that now I can save up medals to buy some planes I really want.

      I typically use my level 7 ASF-X or my level 7 MiG-31B -Gaviria- in 1500cst rooms, which are both very good aircraft, but I forgot to outfit them for NTDM (you pretty much have to maximize homing capabilities or you won't hit anything, ever, and I have them outfitted for damage output in Co-op) so I was using my "for fun" 1500cst set at that point in time (which is the CFA-44 -SL-).

      When I use those, I still often get outperformed on rare occasions despite how good they are. I am not an unskilled player, that's for sure: I have nearly 2000cst and I don't have a single plane above level nine, and I try to avoid playing in rooms with people +/- 200cst from me. So at the moment, I won't play with anyone below 1800cst or above 2200cst unless no other rooms are available. So it's not like I got my player rating from farming noobs, I was playing equally skilled opponents. The only limiting factor is aircraft and weapon performance, really, as I see players who literally just run at the enemy fleet, drop tons of SFFS bombs, and then let themselves get killed before repeating (taking advantage of the temporary post-respawn invisibility), and they rack up MASSIVE scores. That requires very little skill, but very powerful bombs, and admittedly they're probably destroying their profit, but if you make 100,000 points in an NTDM match and then use Forced Sorties and contracts, profit loss is not something you're afraid of.

      Most of the players I see who perform ridiculously well in 1500cst rooms have their planes at 1300+ base cst (evidenced by their very limited usage of parts). It's ridiculous when I work for weeks to get my ASF-X leveled up only to find that some shmuck with a big wallet has used forced sorties to get his F-16C Windhover to Level 15 so he can dominate 1500cst rooms.

      And saving up for a plane you want with Skilled Pilot Medals is nice and all, but it'd take me about 25 successful tournaments to save up for any of the 100 medal aircraft that I want, and I doubt there are that many scheduled tournaments left and I don't want to put in such a ridiculous amount of time and effort for such mediocre rewards. And I physically cannot get more than 4-8 skilled pilot medals per tournament, believe me I've tried storing up stocked fuel and using forced sorties, but I can never breach the 1000th place marker. The gap between 3,000th place and 1,000th place is actually very large usually, last tournament I would've have to double the number of ranking points I had to get from 3,000th to 1,000th.

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    • Well, as I said before in the B-2A article, you can see some videos of a lv.20 B-2A with MAGM in NTDM. That thing is almost unstoppable even if there are great fleet defenders. But the real damage is when the bomber manages to get in range for MGPBs.

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    • TheTLMguy wrote:
      I too have seen a F-14B -PC- scoring more than 100,000 points in less than 2 minutes, the time it took him to win the match. I can't remember what was my squad, but situations like these should never happen.

      Not to mention those players who kick you out of their room because you have a 1800+ MR, when they are MR 1700 but they also fly a TtlCst > 2500 aircraft...

      That drives me nuts, but it's part of this kind of multiplayer format. People want to farm noobs, they don't want to risk coming in (god forbid) 2nd place or lower. I hate it when someone with 2000+cst puts "Beginners Welcome" as their room message and then kicks anyone above 1600cst. It's just shameful.

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    • well, just started playing Infinity from a week ago and to be fair, yeah lots of guys are doing this farming stuffs in NTDM, but in one mind, I'm also feel more confident in Co-op because I've been chased by a 6AAM that has crazy homing and speed because I foolishly take that Wyvern in head on pass. It's true we all need the money, but what we should need most is the skill, I'm not afraid to take on 2300 Cst in my currently 1140 Cst MiG 29, and if I can take those guys, any normal missions would be easier to pass, heck thanks to NTDM, my average Co-op score bumped from 10k to 23k, so again if I met any of you guys playing in high Cst planes, thanks for bumping this noob's skill up a bit ;P

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    • SlyCooperFan1 wrote:
      ^ In my case, I completely crush every NTDM match I go into using my F-2A -Nagase-, at Lv.10 with a few M parts to support the LASMs. BlkThunder is right, aircraft at Lv.1 can't do anything at all - try moving their levels to 10 but changing out the parts to keep it under 1500.

      I've actually been stearing clear of Cst Limit lobbies because both my Wyvern sets are now up over 1900 and that baby is literally my favorite aircraft out of the entire franchise.

      I have been utterly destroyed by people using low-cost MiG-21s and F-4Es on a few occasions, but that was mainly when I went into a lobby that was out of my matching range.

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